Discipline & Behavior
Handling difficult behavior in Scouts and adults, setting standards, and maintaining a healthy troop culture.
Rules or Spirit
Recently I have come across a couple of instances of rule making that have rubbed me the wrong way.
Bullies in Scouting
Bullying is a tough nut to crack.
Second Chances
Adolescence is an often difficult, unstable time and adolescents tend towards actions and attitudes that we find upsetting.
Troop Rules or Resolutions?
If we respond to problems by instituting troop rules or policies we become enforcers.
A New Scoutmaster - Chapter Fourteen
This is the fourteenth installment in a story that follows a new Scoutmaster, Chuck Grant, attempting to use the patrol method in a troop that has forgotten how.
No Hazing
On our backpacking trip this weekend we adults were reminiscing around the campfire.
A New Scoutmaster - Chapter Thirteen
This is the thirteenth installment in a story that follows a new Scoutmaster, Chuck Grant, attempting to use the patrol method in a troop that has forgotten how.
A New Scoutmaster - Chapter Twelve
This is the twelfth installment in a story that follows a new Scoutmaster, Chuck Grant, attempting to use the patrol method in a troop that has forgotten how.
More Rules = More Enforcement
From Rules of Thumb , a collection of hitherto unwritten wisdom that keeps the world from crashing to a halt: The more rules you have in the classroom, the more time you’ll spend enforcing them.
Constructive Scouting Discipline
Sitting down, a sigh of relief, a cup of coffee, close your eyes, and think about a nap.
Grey Areas
Sometimes at summer camp, or a camporee I have taken offense, or witnessed others taking offense with the content of some skits or songs, or some similar public expression.
Zero Tolerance, Zero Responsibility
Two Scout-related stories of the application of zero tolerance policies ( here and here ) have been making the rounds of late so I am taking the opportunity to comment on the concept of zero tolerance.
Behavior, Discipline, Consequences
How does one control a group of Scout-aged boys? Boys are known as experts in mischief, subterfuge and misdirection.
Three Reasons
Seth Godin recently posted this concise analysis: There are only three reasons to really chew someone out for something they did, only three reasons to have an emotional tantrum, to use cutting language and generally make them feel lousy:
You want them to never do it again.
The Rules
From an (anonymous) list of Troop Rules posted on the web: Troop Chairs chairs are a privilege, not a right.
Mistakes Were Made
Mistakes are always made.
Discipline and Accountability in Scouting
There is discipline and accountability in Scouting but Scoutmasters are not disciplinarians.
Understanding Risky Behavior in Scouts - Part Three
The first two parts of this discussion deal with why Scouts make poor decisions and how we can help them decide well .
Understanding Risky Behavior in Scouts Part One
Management Every once in a while a Scout does something so stunningly foolish and reckless we stop and ask; ”He’s such an intelligent kid, why did he do something so stupid?”
Emerging brain development research explains the sometimes stunningly bad choices adolescents make.
Jedi Scoutmaster
We are all working towards the troop where Scout leaders are not leading, up front, talking much ( if at all).
Trying to Make Good or Trouble?
When I served as a camp director I got some complaints about our dining hall steward’s attitude towards Scouts setting or clearing the tables.
Behavior and Program
Unpredictable sometimes difficult behavior is part of adolescence so it is a part of Scouting.
Handling physical fights between Scouts
? ‘What Would You Do?’ AKA ‘Front Line Stuff’ question for the next issue of Scouting Magazine ; During free time on a recent troop camp-out, a Scout from the Fox patrol thought it would be fun to steal the Rattlesnake patrol’s flag.
Hazing
Haze \Haze, v.
Podcast Clips
Episode 368 — CONSTRUCTIVE DISCIPLINE
Final installment of the scouting foundations series: Clarke explains how to maintain discipline by being an adult and being kind, using proportionate consequences instead of corrective punishments, and always applying the Scout Oath and Law to build individual character.
Episode 359 — TALE of TWO TROOPS
Clarke compares Troop A, which uses written rules and penalties, to Troop B, which uses the Scout Oath and Law as its standard — arguing Troop B's approach is more demanding and effective despite appearing lax.
Episode 355 — HANDLING SCOUT MISBEHAVIOR INCIDENTS
Clarke reads a listener email describing a serious incident of inappropriate cell phone use during a Webelos visit and discusses how Scoutmasters should respond proportionately, avoid over-supervision, apply constructive discipline, and use the Scout Oath and Law as the guiding framework.
Episode 351 — LISTENERS EMAIL
A relatively new scoutmaster asks how to address a scout who participates only to fulfill requirements, openly dismisses non-required activities, and left a camping trip early without permission; Clarke advises praising desired behavior publicly, avoiding rules, and engaging scouts in self-evaluation of scout spirit.
Episode 349 — LISTENERS EMAIL
Steve Berthium asks about a second-class scout who refuses to camp and seems likely to quit; anonymous sender asks whether scoutmasters can require scouts to sign leadership contracts; Mike Rosslender asks why boards of review must be limited to registered committee members.
Episode 327 — LISTENERS EMAIL
Anonymous listener asks whether a troop can place a Scout on probation for a school incident, deny service project approval six times citing immaturity, and block advancement based on age — Clarke addresses all three questions in depth.
Episode 325 — LISTENERS EMAIL
Three emails answered: (1) anonymous new Scoutmaster on removing a repeatedly misbehaving scout from the troop; (2) anonymous question on required mock boards of review — BSA policy discourages them and they cannot be required as unauthorized added requirements; (3) James asks for tips on working with an 18-20 year old assistant Scoutmaster.
Episode 293 — LISTENERS EMAIL
Ty Williams (Troop 262, Clarkston WA) asks how to handle sibling arguments and teach values to young scouts; anonymous Scoutmaster asks how to deal with chronically disruptive new scouts. Clarke advises meeting scouts where they are, avoiding punishment, and involving parents for persistent misbehavior.
Episode 291 — LISTENERS EMAIL
Two anonymous emails: (1) an overscheduled Scout whose mom insists he continue toward Eagle Scout despite his reluctance; (2) a scouter nominated to the Order of the Arrow whose son was not elected, raising concerns about OA adult nominations and election processes.
Episode 281 — LISTENERS EMAIL
Anonymous listener asks how to handle scouts who are openly disrespectful to their parent-volunteer scouters; Jim (Troop 309, Morton IL) asks whether helping at Cub Scout events counts as service hours for rank; Darren Brown (Utah) asks how to organize leadership positions in a small troop of eight scouts.
Episode 254 — LISTENERS EMAIL
Two questions answered: (1) David asks how to handle a scout's completed merit badge application from a clinic where requirements couldn't have been fully met — Clarke advises using the 'Reporting Merit Badge Counseling Concerns' form and contacting the district advancement committee. (2) Anonymous Scoutmaster seeks guidance on counseling a scout who bullies peers — Clarke outlines a conference-based approach separating the behavior from the scout, using the Scout Oath and Law as the inner standard, and escalating to parents only if needed.
Episode 238 — LISTENERS EMAIL
Joseph Gray (Troop 384, Temecula, CA) asks how to transition to scout-formed patrols; anonymous scoutmaster asks about handling a scout's off-program misconduct; Paul Fife (Troop 510, Belton, MO) asks whether a scout can hold multiple positions of responsibility and about parental complaints regarding appointments.
Episode 220 — LISTENERS EMAIL
Major Richard K. Luckett asks how to help an over-involved Scoutmaster embrace the patrol method; anonymous parent asks whether they are overreacting to a bullying incident and how it should be handled.
Episode 208 — SCOUTMASTERSHIP in 7 MINUTES
Part two of Scouts and Difficult Behavior: causes of risky decision-making in adolescents, using the Scout Oath and Law as a positive standard, proportionate consequences vs. corrective punishment, step-by-step counseling technique, a three-tiered escalation approach involving parents, and the power of positive reinforcement.
Episode 207 — SCOUTMASTERSHIP in 7 MINUTES
Part one of a two-part series on responding to difficult Scout behavior: four types of behavior (lost/disaffected, unknowing misbehavior, deliberate misbehavior, reckless behavior) and their physical, mental, and developmental causes.
Episode 168 — LISTENERS EMAIL
Multiple listener emails answered: a parent on bullying and pranking in the troop; wearing the Eagle Mentor Pin on the uniform vs. civilian wear; a patrol overruling a scout's meal preference; and whether to reject yellow summer camp merit badge forms in place of official blue cards.
Episode 167 — SCOUTMASTERSHIP in 7 MINUTES
Discipline and punishment in Scouting — Scout leaders are not disciplinarians; punishment belongs to parents, while leaders apply only direct natural consequences and positive reinforcement.
Episode 151 — SCOUTMASTER PANEL DISCUSSION
Larry Geiger, Tom Gillard, and Walter Underwood discuss a listener email about scouts using electronic devices during meetings, adult-imposed punishment (including push-ups), demerit systems, committee authority, and how to re-engage disengaged scouts.
Episode 142 — LISTENERS EMAIL
Doug Marks asks about the Unit College Scouter Reserve membership code (9-2-U) for scouts over 18 attending college; second email (anonymous) from a scoutmaster upset after a scout quit disrespectfully — Clarke offers perspective on caring leaders not winning every time.
Episode 124 — SCOUTMASTERSHIP in 7 MINUTES
Discipline in Scouting — scout leaders are not disciplinarians; use positive reinforcement and constructive discipline, refer behavioral problems to parents, and rely on the Scout Oath and Law as the sole code of conduct.
Episode 122 — SCOUTMASTER PANEL DISCUSSION
Larry Geiger and Tom Gillard (Walter Underwood absent) discuss recognizing and handling difficult parent types — pushy/advancement-obsessed, whiny, helicopter, and bully parents — as well as conflicts between Scout units and leaders in a community.
Episode 81 — SCOUTMASTERSHIP in 7 MINUTES
Discipline in scouting: punishment is not part of the scouting experience; discipline means teaching; using natural and logical consequences; group vs. individual responsibility; handling serious incidents.
Episode 43 — LISTENERS EMAIL
Brian Spellman on the moment he saw youth leadership actually work; Larry Geiger on why Scouting's real challenges make hazing unnecessary
Episode 15 — SCOUTMASTERSHIP in 7 MINUTES
Kindness and compassion as a Scout leader — avoiding shame and anger when correcting Scouts.
Episode 10 — SCOUTMASTER'S MINUTE
Difficult scouts — behaviour, learning disabilities, physical challenges; guard against broad assumptions and prejudices; study what's going on
Episode 9 — SCOUTMASTERSHIP in 7 MINUTES
Second chances — adolescent brains are physically developing, not choosing to be irrational; Clarke has never expelled a scout in 25 years; the case for taking in a scout who was dismissed elsewhere: four years of work, a dozen merit badges, boards of review, and one incident
Episode 9 — WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
Scenario-based discussion — nine out of ten problems you face as a scout leader are not really problems