Clark Green shares a blog post by new Scoutmaster Brian Spellman of Fishers, Indiana, who describes the moment he truly saw his Scouts lead themselves. The episode explores what it looks and feels like when the patrol method actually works—and a listener email touches on similar themes.

An extended interview with Larry Geiger, Scoutmaster in Cocoa, Florida, who has been a frequent commenter on the blog and podcast. The conversation covers his troop’s program, the journey toward a truly boy-led troop, and what success looks like when Scouts can do the whole thing themselves.